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Post by Doug Logston on Jul 25, 2012 5:00:52 GMT -7
Classes and rules for our 2012 - 2013 racing season are posted in the attachment below. (You'll see a six second countdown opportunity to view a commercial, then the document will download. If it does not, click on the here text and follow prompts.) The document will open and display the classes and rules for our upcoming season. Doug L. Attachments:
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Post by Tom Dolan on Jul 25, 2012 6:00:51 GMT -7
All good except I think the motor limit in the shelby class should be 21K or less--25 is just too much, especially if someone uses an HRS chassis. Shelby cars were fast, but not THAT fast so to make them more "scale" speed, I think the 21K would be more than enough.
Tom ;D
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Post by Tom Dolan on Jul 25, 2012 18:00:22 GMT -7
Or better still, just an 18K motor. H&R makes a really good one.
Tom ;D
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Post by Jim Weickum on Aug 1, 2012 13:10:53 GMT -7
I think we can leave the motor limit at 25k for the Shelby class. Just because that is the limit, it doesn't mean you have to put a 25k motor in. If you limit it to 21k, the normal small can Slot.it motor is 21.5k, so it would be illegal. There are other factory motors that wouldn't be allowed also. 22k would be the lowest limit, for an open class. I have cars that have come with 25k motors, standard. Check out "Slot Car News" for their testing of many if not all the motors made.
Jim W
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Post by Tom Dolan on Aug 2, 2012 8:10:40 GMT -7
Any comments from the committee??
Tom ;D
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Post by David Asbury on Aug 2, 2012 14:40:55 GMT -7
Shelby stuffed a 427 with at least 500 hp in a 1800lb. aluminum bodied 2 seat roadster designed for a Bristol straight six with about 175 hp. We thought the RPM limit was kinda low compared to what Ol Shell might try. In any case, we don't think it will be an issue for the most part and may get a few motor sales at the store along with tires. I seem to recall a writer stating you could go from 0-100 and back to 0 in about 12 seconds in the new 427 Cobra. Keep in mind we all will be running Shelby cars. Zoom Zoom!
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Post by Jim Weickum on Aug 2, 2012 15:52:04 GMT -7
That was with the street COBRA. The racing cars were much faster. I remember a Cobra running low 12,s at the drags back in the late ,60,s. At CDR.
Jim W
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Post by Steve Burkey on Aug 2, 2012 17:53:15 GMT -7
on another subject. . .
I finally started to think about these cars/classes yesterday, and had some discussions with Jim and Tom at Tom's house. For the trans-am, I started to realize that we would probably be limited to current production stuff, thus the "limited" class designation, I'm sure. Today I pulled out some cars I have: The Scalex Escort, a Revell Cortina, an Auto Art Lancia Fulvia (oooh so pretty). Again, pulling the magnet, I could see, would make these cars pretty helpless with the stock stuff. Tom had mentioned the challenges of finding tires small enough, in some cases, to fit the rims. And even to switch out totally (rim and tire), what is small and narrow enough to fit, and still look "proper"? Apart from this, I then noticed something. Setting all 3 cars on my setup block, not one clears the 1/16 inch rule. The chassis molding is almost on the ground in places. Notwithstanding the possible wheel switch-out, how will we deal with this?
Steve
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Post by Tom Dolan on Aug 2, 2012 18:10:21 GMT -7
The Cobras still topped out at around 160MPH--it was a brick as far as aerodynamics go. It was a torque monster--not a speed demon. I still stand by my suggestion of 21K or less.
Tom ;D
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Post by Doug Logston on Aug 2, 2012 19:33:06 GMT -7
The 25,000 RPM limit in the Shelby Tribute class is a maximum. That does not mean that one must stuff a 25K motor in the car one will race throughout the season.
By all means, if a lower RPM motor makes sense, use it.
I'm guessing that a 25K motor may only be of benefit at a track like Daryl's or perhaps David's with his 180 degree banked turn.
The rest of the tracks we race on, 25K will probably be too hot a motor.
Doug L.
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Post by Daryl Payne on Aug 2, 2012 20:46:22 GMT -7
My initial thought was 25k, but the more I thought about it, it seemed like it might not be advantagous on most tracks to run 25k. On my track a 25K motor doesnt really lap any faster than the 21.5k motor, and probably comes off more to boot. I will not be running a 25k motor.
Actually I would be happiest running all vintage for everything, but that is not going to be.
We really should consider trying something like the HR 18k as a spec motor (next year?). It costs under $10.00, and is a motor that is smooth and nice to drive.
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Post by Tom Dolan on Aug 3, 2012 7:59:03 GMT -7
As far as the clearance rules goes, if the stock chassis design is the reason it is a little too low, I'm OK with allowing it.
Tom ;D
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Post by Tom Dolan on Aug 3, 2012 8:02:30 GMT -7
I was looking thru a Trans Am book of mine and found a few other cars that would be eligible for the under 3L class.
Renault 8 (SCX)
Volkswagen Beeetle (Scalextric)
Lancia Fulvia I(Auto Art)
Hillman Imp--sorry just had to mention that one LOL
I'll post others when I get home and look at the book again.
Tom ;D
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Post by Jim Weickum on Aug 3, 2012 8:05:22 GMT -7
But, the thrill of victory with a car that is completely out of control. What better way than a big motor and a light body. A Shelby Cobra at it's best. I still regret not getting that one in the 70's.
Jim W
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Post by David Asbury on Aug 3, 2012 8:46:51 GMT -7
I too think we will have to let the stock clearance on the Trans Am cars if they are too low right off the bat. I don't on the other hand want to make it anything that doesn't drag so some more research is probably in order to determine what would be appropriate for these. David
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